tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8637125351921336084.post7219898605724267251..comments2024-03-19T00:26:30.753-07:00Comments on The Jesus Blog: Aposynagōgos and the Historical Jesus in John, Jonathan Bernier--Chris KeithAnthony Le Donnehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01282792648606976883noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8637125351921336084.post-52372717076460185002014-12-15T05:10:40.591-08:002014-12-15T05:10:40.591-08:00What according to the author is a "level"...What according to the author is a "level" exactly when talking about the GJ? Aren't there always two levels in the Gospels, viz. one pertaining to the subject matter and one pertaining to the "world" of the author? jeff spiessenshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17568517999839983704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8637125351921336084.post-15539763354287761772014-04-28T11:29:22.620-07:002014-04-28T11:29:22.620-07:00Well done, Jonathan! Good to see your book out the...Well done, Jonathan! Good to see your book out there.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12833361847095388497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8637125351921336084.post-82153013097707477542014-01-09T11:33:45.325-08:002014-01-09T11:33:45.325-08:00I would like to thank Chris and Anthony for provid...I would like to thank Chris and Anthony for providing me with this opportunity to promote my work. I would also like especially to draw attention to Chris' comment about this being a "McMaster study from top to bottom," and make specific reference to the contribution of Ben F. Meyer to my overall thinking. Although Prof. Meyer taught in McMaster's Department of Religious Studies for the better part of thirty years, sadly he passed away before I went there to study. Nonetheless, his legacy looms large in the Department (as does that of E.P. Sanders, with whom he taught alongside). I say that by way of explanation for why I gravitate towards his hermeneutical work more than, say, the excellent philosophers and theorists of history with which Jens Schröter engages with in his work. This should not be read as a judgment that Meyer's thought is superior to these other thinkers, but rather as indicative simply of my academic heritage. That said, one thing that I would love to do down the road is to bring the ideas of Lonergan and Meyer into dialogue with Droysen and others. I am firmly convinced that at this point genuine progress in historical Jesus studies will come primarily through engagement with matters of the philosophy of history, so welcome any discussions along those lines.Jonathan Bernierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14725279327451665246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8637125351921336084.post-62476210973856586962014-01-09T09:51:52.513-08:002014-01-09T09:51:52.513-08:00Thanks for your comment, Anthony. Lee Levine's...Thanks for your comment, Anthony. Lee Levine's work is of course indispensable for our understanding of the ancient synagogue. His primary utility for my work is the emphasis that he puts upon the synagogue as a sort of civic centre, i.e. it includes a political as well as a religious dimension. This allowed me to move the discussion of the aposynagogos from one exclusively about a religious conflict to one that took into account political matters.Jonathan Bernierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14725279327451665246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8637125351921336084.post-13344714292102728422014-01-09T09:48:12.588-08:002014-01-09T09:48:12.588-08:00Thanks for pointing this out Ken. I would note tha...Thanks for pointing this out Ken. I would note that of course the dissertation differs somewhat from the published monograph. It definitely would give you a sense of the major arguments, though.Jonathan Bernierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14725279327451665246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8637125351921336084.post-63715342278679610392014-01-09T09:42:50.494-08:002014-01-09T09:42:50.494-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jonathan Bernierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14725279327451665246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8637125351921336084.post-31647937216918406112014-01-09T09:41:30.144-08:002014-01-09T09:41:30.144-08:00Thanks for your comment, John. You're absolute...Thanks for your comment, John. You're absolutely right, and indeed I engage with and essentially agree with Prof. Boyarin (any disagreements with him on the matter being in the area of quibbles).Jonathan Bernierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14725279327451665246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8637125351921336084.post-23513186273204828022014-01-09T07:49:01.677-08:002014-01-09T07:49:01.677-08:00Thanks for calling attention to this work. I found...Thanks for calling attention to this work. I found that the dissertation is available through DigitalCommons@McMaster: http://digitalcommons.mcmaster.ca/opendissertations/7697/Ken Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04454962367986776038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8637125351921336084.post-55766432025515609562014-01-09T07:45:40.195-08:002014-01-09T07:45:40.195-08:00I notice that the dissertation is available throug...I notice that the dissertation is available through DigitalCommons@McMaster: http://digitalcommons.mcmaster.ca/opendissertations/7697/Ken Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04454962367986776038noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8637125351921336084.post-12041481476373486052014-01-08T15:08:17.679-08:002014-01-08T15:08:17.679-08:00This coheres well with what Daniel Boyarin has arg...This coheres well with what Daniel Boyarin has argued in Border Lines about the insignificance of the Birkat ha-Minim for understanding Jewish-Christian relations in the first century of the Jesus movement(s).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06557524539486647392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8637125351921336084.post-21816686814220527942014-01-08T15:07:44.833-08:002014-01-08T15:07:44.833-08:00*conversation* partner.... although I'm all fo...*conversation* partner.... although I'm all for conservation too.Anthony Le Donnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01282792648606976883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8637125351921336084.post-46254000903602504942014-01-08T15:05:57.034-08:002014-01-08T15:05:57.034-08:00Thank you, Jonathan. This sounds fascinating!
Wou...Thank you, Jonathan. This sounds fascinating!<br /><br />Would you be willing to interact with Lee Levine's work a bit. I see you've mentioned Levine as an important conservation partner above. I'd be interested in hearing how you've utilized his work on early synagogue culture.<br /><br />-anthony<br />Anthony Le Donnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01282792648606976883noreply@blogger.com