tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8637125351921336084.post7180866071563193212..comments2024-03-19T00:26:30.753-07:00Comments on The Jesus Blog: Meier vs. ZimmermannAnthony Le Donnehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01282792648606976883noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8637125351921336084.post-86134035504445605892016-11-24T01:17:47.556-08:002016-11-24T01:17:47.556-08:00I went to another session and could not attend thi...I went to another session and could not attend this one (which was probably a bad decision on my part), so I was happy to find this short summary. Zimmermann's point against Meier, at least as it is phrased here, does not seem to me to be very forceful. Meier does not claim that the remaining parables (for which he finds no positive evidence of authenticity) cannot have been told by Jesus. Yes, the Good Samaritan was composed by Luke, according to Meier, but the vast majority of individual parables fall into the 'non liquet' category. To me that conclusion does not expose any failure at all, but seems quite compatible with the 'memory approach'. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05239459674521795765noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8637125351921336084.post-15058340267262847662016-11-21T15:13:48.661-08:002016-11-21T15:13:48.661-08:00Hi Anthony – I think you'd have to give us mor...Hi Anthony – I think you'd have to give us more sense of what the arguments are that Motley is presenting for us to be able to understand how he can be so certain. What are the markers of the Greek that allow us to back-translate with confidence that one rather than another cognate semitic language is being used?Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10326403777027937887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8637125351921336084.post-80024309809389235412016-11-21T09:04:42.373-08:002016-11-21T09:04:42.373-08:00Thanks Stephen. So then, Notley would have us reth...Thanks Stephen. So then, Notley would have us rethink whether or not the parables would have been spoken in Aramaic. According to his research, we have lots of Hebrew parables, and (to his knowledge) no parables in Aramaic.Anthony Le Donnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01282792648606976883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8637125351921336084.post-37301791794400315302016-11-21T06:36:35.871-08:002016-11-21T06:36:35.871-08:00That Hebrew was a living language at the time of J...That Hebrew was a living language at the time of Jesus has been shown by Qumran mss. How widespread is another question. Because some scholars before the Qumran discoveries assumed Hebrew was not in use at the time, many turned to Aramaic rather than Hebrew proposals for the etymology of "Essenes." But Ph. Melanchthon already in 1532 proposed the Hebrew root 'asah; compare the Qumran pesharim self-designation 'osey hatorah. Pharisees and Sadducees would not call them that, and J.J. Scaliger (if I recall correctly) in 1583 dismissed Melanchthon's etymology as a German hallucination.Stephen Goransonhttp://people.duke.edu/~goranson/noreply@blogger.com